There's a cogent summary in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satanic_Ritual_Abuse
What a wonderfully malleable thing is the human brain. I remember reading about the ritual abuse hysteria some years back when the fundies first started their anti-Harry Potter campaign.
For the hand that rocks the cradle
Is a pain in the arse for the reality-based community.
You want fun? Try looking into Ritual Satanic Abuse. That along with the pre-school molestation cases was an early example - and the good news is that, as an educated person in a stable relationship, you qualify as a likely satanic abuser. I used to remind my friends of this - which may be why they no longer speak to me.
from out of the tree's shadow the druid materialized. looked around this strange world wondering if this is a dream. Like a wisp of smoke vanishing in the morning sun, he fades back into the tress to ponder the vision.
I guess a few OEDILFers pop in from time to time. My blogging's so inconsistent I doubt I can sustain a crowd of regular readers.
Thanks for your thoughts, MAGA.
So the game producer will release a new version that removes the fully-clothed simulated sex acts, but leaves all the ultra-violence, and they'll get back their original 17+ rating. *shrugs* Good old-fashioned people-clubbing, blood-spattering, dismemberment.
I don't care too much if it's Hillary or anyone else pushing this warped sex-fearing morality. It still makes me shudder.
Our Toxic sent word to Miami:
"Yon server has gone a bit gammy."
I've had no further word
As to what has occurred
So I'd say that it's copped a fair whammy.
We tried, but were cruelly rebuffed;
Was it down to an excess of cruft?
Or just too many hits?
Well in either case, it's
Definitionally, definitely stuffed.
(But hopefully not for long. Thanks for the heads-up, Virge.)
And she'll be excoriated by the right for her liberal attitudes, which is why she's putting out this harmless junk. Presidential run in future. Of course, the troglodytes will never find a candidate that suits them.
Next presidential race will be very, very interesting. No heir to Bush since Cheney is not electable and likely isn't a candidate. Kerry a distinct possibility and while he got more votes than any Democrat in history no one knows how many of those were for him and how many were against Bush.
It's interesting to see how Christianity has hijacked morality. Christian dogma maintains that without God there would be no morality; we would all be just animals. With the wealth of history available to us it becomes obvious that people will commit unspeakably immoral acts both with and without God. Having an invisible friend whose moral authority is supreme, and on whom you can offload all your own moral responsibility, actually makes immoral actions easier to rationalize. The Nuremberg defense has been used in many different forms long before the twentieth century.
On my University ListServ, I am engaged in a continuing "discussion" with some classmates who are on the religious right. They blame society's ills on a lack of morality, which they equate with a lack of religion. We've covered the farce called Intelligent Design, abortion, etc.
It's funny, though, that some of their examples show the opposite: the Pakistani woman gang-raped by order of her village elders was done under a strict moral code by religious people.
I see no connection between religious belief or lack of and abuse. People are entirely capable of fitting cruelty into the context of their beliefs.
Funny, how these fundie types always assume that every atheist fits some ridiculous far-left stereotype: something straight out of the sixties, with flower power and free love and loads of marijuana. Ha. My family, now, has been atheist for generations. I am an atheist. My parents were atheists before me, and their parents, and THEIR parents, too. Before that, who knows? We could've been atheists all the way back to the Dark Ages, although that seems rather unlikely.
At any rate, my family has ALSO always been anti-sex, anti-drugs, and decidedly anti rock-and-roll. Even in the 1960s, my father had short hair, and wore a suit every day. In their wedding photos, you can see my geeky father and my virginal mother, smiling nervously into the camera like the stuffiest of Christian newlyweds.
Although they're not Christians, they're indistinguishable from the religious folks in their neighbourhood. They profess the same morals, but commit the same sins. They drive the same car, live in the same suburb, do the same jobs, and get the same haircuts. If they were Canadian citizens, they'd even vote the same way in the elections.
These fundamentalists, always trying to stick themselves in the good and moral camp, and cast everyone else as a filthy pagan! Faugh. Don't they have eyes?
As far as childhood trauma goes, a Christian teacher once gave me the belt for refusing to pray. That was pretty embarrassing, in front of the whole class, and all. Oddly, I can't ever recall being punished by an atheist for exploring religion.
This is way cool. You mean I dont need to go to a church and donate 10% to God? What if I refuse to accept that a single God even exists? No moral code or system of ethics? Bye bye sinner mentality, hello happiness. Sign me up!
jk,
I vaguely remember Sigga telling me about Icelanders who could verbally spar in verse with both rhyme and structured alliteration. That would be impressive to observe. Even though I wouldn't understand it, I think it would still beat watching wrestling on TV.
Charlie,
I've never taught junior high or high school. There are many times when I've wished that the erudition of my high-school companions had been a few notches higher. Forget Shakespeare; the pinnacle of intellectual pursuits was learning how to swear in as many different languages as possible.
Socar,
I saw another word a couple of days ago that reminded me of your (completely unwarranted) packbawky abuse. The word was Turdus, a genus of singing birds including the true thrushes.
Come, flyte with me--come flyte, come flyte! (You know, like that song from the United Airlines commercials, except with an awful pun in.)
I like this word too. It reminds me of our packbawky verse-fight. Come to think of it, I haven't cast any aspersions at the nit-winged set just lately. One will have to remedy that situation.
I guess you never taught junior high or high school. This goes on all the time there. I just didn't know it had a name.
GREGORY
I will frown as I pass by, and let them take it as
they list.
SAMPSON
Nay, as they dare. I will bite my thumb at them;
which is a disgrace to them, if they bear it.
ABRAHAM
Do you bite your thumb at us, sir? (1.1.44)
SAMPSON
I do bite my thumb, sir. (1.1.45)
ABRAHAM
Do you bite your thumb at us, sir? (1.1.46)
SAMPSON
[Aside to GREGORY ] Is the law of our side, if I say
ay? (1.1.48)
GREGORY
No.
SAMPSON
No, sir, I do not bite my thumb at you, sir, but I
bite my thumb, sir.
GREGORY
Do you quarrel, sir?
ABRAHAM
Quarrel sir! no, sir.
Gabe Kaplan had a comedy routine about ranking called Holes and Mellow Rolls, as in up your hole with a mellow role. In MP & The Holy Grail, remember the French guy yelling insults down from the castle: "I fart in your general direction." Now to see an insult contest, you have to watch wrestling on TV, something I refuse to do.
I knew a Saro Murabito once. During the 50s. I was little but I remember him. He and my mother were friends. So I was sad to hear that -- if this is the same Saro and it seems likely--that he died in the 70s. But given his age when I was small, that's not unreasonable. Thank you for your site...gave me back a tiny bit of my own history! Peace! Val jvaljon1@aol.com
Well, I'm a creationist, and I certainly don't agree with any of the sentiments in your poem, but you put them beautifully.
G'ha! I wasn't expecting that punchline. Very adroit.
The essence of writing is re-writing.
There's a cogent summary in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satanic_Ritual_Abuse
What a wonderfully malleable thing is the human brain. I remember reading about the ritual abuse hysteria some years back when the fundies first started their anti-Harry Potter campaign.
For the hand that rocks the cradle
Is a pain in the arse for the reality-based community.
You want fun? Try looking into Ritual Satanic Abuse. That along with the pre-school molestation cases was an early example - and the good news is that, as an educated person in a stable relationship, you qualify as a likely satanic abuser. I used to remind my friends of this - which may be why they no longer speak to me.
from out of the tree's shadow the druid materialized. looked around this strange world wondering if this is a dream. Like a wisp of smoke vanishing in the morning sun, he fades back into the tress to ponder the vision.
I guess a few OEDILFers pop in from time to time. My blogging's so inconsistent I doubt I can sustain a crowd of regular readers.
Thanks for your thoughts, MAGA.
Love the site Virge, how many OEDILFers actually visit you?I DEY HEREOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO HELLO ALL MAGASSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
Looks like the rating's been changed now.
http://www.iht.com/articles/2005/07/21/business/game.php
So the game producer will release a new version that removes the fully-clothed simulated sex acts, but leaves all the ultra-violence, and they'll get back their original 17+ rating. *shrugs* Good old-fashioned people-clubbing, blood-spattering, dismemberment.
I don't care too much if it's Hillary or anyone else pushing this warped sex-fearing morality. It still makes me shudder.
Our Toxic sent word to Miami:
"Yon server has gone a bit gammy."
I've had no further word
As to what has occurred
So I'd say that it's copped a fair whammy.
We tried, but were cruelly rebuffed;
Was it down to an excess of cruft?
Or just too many hits?
Well in either case, it's
Definitionally, definitely stuffed.
(But hopefully not for long. Thanks for the heads-up, Virge.)
And she'll be excoriated by the right for her liberal attitudes, which is why she's putting out this harmless junk. Presidential run in future. Of course, the troglodytes will never find a candidate that suits them.
Next presidential race will be very, very interesting. No heir to Bush since Cheney is not electable and likely isn't a candidate. Kerry a distinct possibility and while he got more votes than any Democrat in history no one knows how many of those were for him and how many were against Bush.
It's interesting to see how Christianity has hijacked morality. Christian dogma maintains that without God there would be no morality; we would all be just animals. With the wealth of history available to us it becomes obvious that people will commit unspeakably immoral acts both with and without God. Having an invisible friend whose moral authority is supreme, and on whom you can offload all your own moral responsibility, actually makes immoral actions easier to rationalize. The Nuremberg defense has been used in many different forms long before the twentieth century.
On my University ListServ, I am engaged in a continuing "discussion" with some classmates who are on the religious right. They blame society's ills on a lack of morality, which they equate with a lack of religion. We've covered the farce called Intelligent Design, abortion, etc.
It's funny, though, that some of their examples show the opposite: the Pakistani woman gang-raped by order of her village elders was done under a strict moral code by religious people.
I see no connection between religious belief or lack of and abuse. People are entirely capable of fitting cruelty into the context of their beliefs.
Funny, how these fundie types always assume that every atheist fits some ridiculous far-left stereotype: something straight out of the sixties, with flower power and free love and loads of marijuana. Ha. My family, now, has been atheist for generations. I am an atheist. My parents were atheists before me, and their parents, and THEIR parents, too. Before that, who knows? We could've been atheists all the way back to the Dark Ages, although that seems rather unlikely.
At any rate, my family has ALSO always been anti-sex, anti-drugs, and decidedly anti rock-and-roll. Even in the 1960s, my father had short hair, and wore a suit every day. In their wedding photos, you can see my geeky father and my virginal mother, smiling nervously into the camera like the stuffiest of Christian newlyweds.
Although they're not Christians, they're indistinguishable from the religious folks in their neighbourhood. They profess the same morals, but commit the same sins. They drive the same car, live in the same suburb, do the same jobs, and get the same haircuts. If they were Canadian citizens, they'd even vote the same way in the elections.
These fundamentalists, always trying to stick themselves in the good and moral camp, and cast everyone else as a filthy pagan! Faugh. Don't they have eyes?
As far as childhood trauma goes, a Christian teacher once gave me the belt for refusing to pray. That was pretty embarrassing, in front of the whole class, and all. Oddly, I can't ever recall being punished by an atheist for exploring religion.
I don't want to do the washing up after.
Hear they make fine eating, rolled in cornmeal and fried in a pan. Need a big pan. And some mighty large hush puppies to go with.
Said Mrs Rat, "This tiny flat we've patently outgrown,
And more's the space we could embrace if each would eat their own."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rat
Upon the dock at four o'clock one bird accosts another:
"There's time to fly up in the sky, but not to call your mother?"
http://www.rattysghost.com/birdfight.avi
This is way cool. You mean I dont need to go to a church and donate 10% to God? What if I refuse to accept that a single God even exists? No moral code or system of ethics? Bye bye sinner mentality, hello happiness. Sign me up!
jk,
I vaguely remember Sigga telling me about Icelanders who could verbally spar in verse with both rhyme and structured alliteration. That would be impressive to observe. Even though I wouldn't understand it, I think it would still beat watching wrestling on TV.
Charlie,
I've never taught junior high or high school. There are many times when I've wished that the erudition of my high-school companions had been a few notches higher. Forget Shakespeare; the pinnacle of intellectual pursuits was learning how to swear in as many different languages as possible.
Socar,
I saw another word a couple of days ago that reminded me of your (completely unwarranted) packbawky abuse. The word was Turdus, a genus of singing birds including the true thrushes.
Come, flyte with me--come flyte, come flyte! (You know, like that song from the United Airlines commercials, except with an awful pun in.)
I like this word too. It reminds me of our packbawky verse-fight. Come to think of it, I haven't cast any aspersions at the nit-winged set just lately. One will have to remedy that situation.
I guess you never taught junior high or high school. This goes on all the time there. I just didn't know it had a name.
GREGORY
I will frown as I pass by, and let them take it as
they list.
SAMPSON
Nay, as they dare. I will bite my thumb at them;
which is a disgrace to them, if they bear it.
ABRAHAM
Do you bite your thumb at us, sir? (1.1.44)
SAMPSON
I do bite my thumb, sir. (1.1.45)
ABRAHAM
Do you bite your thumb at us, sir? (1.1.46)
SAMPSON
[Aside to GREGORY ] Is the law of our side, if I say
ay? (1.1.48)
GREGORY
No.
SAMPSON
No, sir, I do not bite my thumb at you, sir, but I
bite my thumb, sir.
GREGORY
Do you quarrel, sir?
ABRAHAM
Quarrel sir! no, sir.
http://www.clicknotes.com/romeo/T11.html
Gabe Kaplan had a comedy routine about ranking called Holes and Mellow Rolls, as in up your hole with a mellow role. In MP & The Holy Grail, remember the French guy yelling insults down from the castle: "I fart in your general direction." Now to see an insult contest, you have to watch wrestling on TV, something I refuse to do.
Hello,
I knew a Saro Murabito once. During the 50s. I was little but I remember him. He and my mother were friends. So I was sad to hear that -- if this is the same Saro and it seems likely--that he died in the 70s. But given his age when I was small, that's not unreasonable. Thank you for your site...gave me back a tiny bit of my own history! Peace! Val jvaljon1@aol.com